Thread:Lucas Traumen/@comment-3218221-20200418141445/@comment-3218221-20200424231416

Hi,

Thanks for clarifying you inserted a French name. I used Google Translate to approximate a definition of 'utsurojuza' (『虚銃座』) and it seems it roughly translates to 'void/hollow gun turret'...and of course, I see now that 'barbette vide' must be an actual translation of 'utsurojuza'. Although I do know a decent amount of French, the possibility of you inserting the French translation version hadn't occurred to me because:

1. It is not standard practice on Anglophone wikis to use non-English or non-native language names for characters/terms/etc in a series with an official English translation. Notice how the anglophone Ace Attorney Wiki uses the Japanese names of the second Miles Edgeworth Investigations game (which doesn't have an official English translation) instead of, say, Chinese versions.

2. I honestly had no idea the French translation was directly translating some of the names until now! I mean, I knew the French version of Corpse God/Kabane Shinden is "le Maître des corps," but since the English version has used 'utsurojuza'/'utsuro juuza' so far, I just assumed the French version did the same thing. Another reason to obtain the French copies...

I thus apologize if it sounded like I was accusing you of vandalism. That wasn't my intention, but I can see how it could come across as such. It's been a habit of mine to preemptively bring vandalism up 'just in case' due to the vandalism I've experienced on the Baccano! Wiki and seen on the Durarara!! Wiki (and wikis in general).

With that said, please do not insert the French versions of names into articles like that. It really isn't standard practice on Anglophone wikis. On that note, I see you've added a 'Circus Freak' category to the articles Tena Sorimura, Lemmings, Fire-Breathing Bug, and Know...

...Remember how I requested you contact me first about categories? This is a good example for explaining why. I can presume 'circus freak' is what Comps-3 calls Sorimura, Lemmings, and FBB in French, right? The English translation calls them 'troublemakers', a term that is already in use on the Wiki (check out the Comps-3 article, the Lemmings and Sorimura articles...). Therefore, the category should be called 'Troublemakers'. I now have to go to extra work to delete the category from those articles (but, since you want the category, I will at least create a new 'Troublemakers' category for you).

This could've been avoided if you'd just asked me what I thought about creating a Troublemakers/Circus Freak category, or if you used the term the wiki uses in the first place. I beg you to check with me first; it saves us both from unnecessary work! Oh--also, as a fact check: should the wiki formally consider Know a 'troublemaker'? I ask because Sorimura explicitly says Know is not on the level of a 'true' troublemaker in Chapter 17:

So if Sorimura doesn't consider Know a 'troublemaker', and he's not referred to as a 'troublemaker' by Comps-3, I've not considered him one either up until now. What are your thoughts?

"Even if certain pages have only one line..." / Guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this? Ah, I again might be pessimistic thanks to past experiences with one-line article creations; for instance, in 2017, an anon troll on the Baccano! Wiki created an article for Krieck (then called Klik) consisting of the line "Klick is a c***." I ended up writing an entire article from scratch rather than deleting it, since we did need a Krieck article, but the frustration I felt definitely lingered.

Oh, well! You were probably right that it's about time the wiki has a Necromancy article, and I suppose a preliminary Byandy Empire article is potentially doable. I've already picked out a possible image for its infobox; the Necromancy one, on the other hand... Well, I'll first need to create a Necromancy infobox...maybe... actually, I'm not sure yet what type of infobox it would have.

Maybe we can brainstorm together on this! I've been putting off the supernatural articles partially because I've been second guessing what things should be articles. But that's for a different message or for Discussions, if you're interested.

One last thing: Would you like the wiki to acknowledge the French names somewhere? For instance, if infoboxes contained a French and a Japanese row? (Alternatively, the French name could be mentioned in Trivia). I've entertained the idea before; I've already tried to acknowledge the French releases on the Volume pages, so this wouldn't be too unreasonable as an extra step.